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when you looked at the surveillance video, when you hear what pete williams is reporting about their backgrounds, what leaps to mind? what do you think we can ascertain from those facts? >> these guys had a plan. when i saw the video, seemed like they knew what they were doing. they were moving with a purpose. they were calm. it eerily reminded me of the mumbai attacks. you can't tell too much from the brief videotape that we saw that was released to the public but it appeared they were calm and moving with a purpose. >> we now have a name and putting together a bit of a background. at least one of them was a legal permanent resident who had a massachusetts driver's license. there is a long and sad history of strife in chechnya and acts of terrorism. >> you have to look at that original of terrorism. this is where we can't jump to conclusions yet. we're going to be relying on our foreign intelligence partners in russia and turkey because it was believed these men lived in turkey. we want to find out do they come from a lineage of terrorists. do they have military training. we'll try
when you looked at the surveillance video, when you hear what pete williams is reporting about their backgrounds, what leaps to mind? what do you think we can ascertain from those facts? >> these guys had a plan. when i saw the video, seemed like they knew what they were doing. they were moving with a purpose. they were calm. it eerily reminded me of the mumbai attacks. you can't tell too much from the brief videotape that we saw that was released to the public but it appeared they were...
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thank you, pete williams. for joining us. pete william, justice correspondent for nbc news. clint van zandt, msnbc political analyst, and phillip mudd, former cia analyst, former deputy director of the fbi national security branch. he's author of the book "takedown." i wonder, i know we're filled in this country with strange thinking people, truthers, birthers that have off the wall theories. i don't know how anybody could look at this evidence presented so far and have some other theory of the case besides the indictment, itself. >> no, it's really coming together. i mean, there's -- as terrible as this case is and was, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of heavy lifting. we've got the two primary individuals. it's obvious that they had hands on the devices. the pieces we don't have, chris, are where was their inspiration? where did they get the guidance? who taught them how to build the bombs? >> why is that important? why is that important to -- is that important to prosecuting? i mean, what difference does it make why they did it if they did it? i'm being tough here. w
thank you, pete williams. for joining us. pete william, justice correspondent for nbc news. clint van zandt, msnbc political analyst, and phillip mudd, former cia analyst, former deputy director of the fbi national security branch. he's author of the book "takedown." i wonder, i know we're filled in this country with strange thinking people, truthers, birthers that have off the wall theories. i don't know how anybody could look at this evidence presented so far and have some other...
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this is just coming from pete williams of nbc news. last night, police in watertown, massachusetts, got into a shootout with both suspects. they ever both brothers from chechnya. you might recall the surveillance photos. the one in the black cap, 26-year-old sam german tsarnaev, ted not only of a gunshot wounds but shrapnel wounds and thermal wounds indicating he might have been hurt by an explosive device. the brothers did reportedly throw at least one bomb during a shootout with police. the suspect in the white cap, he is 19-year-old dzhokhar tsarnaev. he is the one that we are still looking for. he told the "associated press" that he was an angel. police ask asked you to shelter in place and not open the door unless it is police. we will have more updates in two minutes. hey! did you know that honey nut cheerios has oats that can help lower cholesterol? and it tastes good? sure does! ♪ wow. [ buzz ] delicious, right? yeah. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... ♪ well, would you look at the time... what's the rush? bee happy. b
this is just coming from pete williams of nbc news. last night, police in watertown, massachusetts, got into a shootout with both suspects. they ever both brothers from chechnya. you might recall the surveillance photos. the one in the black cap, 26-year-old sam german tsarnaev, ted not only of a gunshot wounds but shrapnel wounds and thermal wounds indicating he might have been hurt by an explosive device. the brothers did reportedly throw at least one bomb during a shootout with police. the...
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nbc news justice correspondent pete williams is on the case with the latest in the investigation. pete, what are we learning now? what are the ratest, first of all, from dzhokhar tsarnaev, and do they believe he and his brother were lone wolfs? >> you may recall that the charges against him were actually filed under seal on sunday, he had his initial appearance in the hospital on monday, and as far as we know, they haven't attempted to re-interview him since then. he's getting with his lawyers, trying to figure out how to proceed. in essence his's confessed already. he's told authorities that he and his brother did it, he's given a reason why, their opposition to the wars in iraq and afghanistan, which think thought were attacks on islam. and he said they were not inspired by foreign countries or foreign interests that they came up with this plot on their own, and that's largely what he said. there are other little details. so i think it will be a while yet before they're able to talk to him any more. >> we're hearing there was some confusion yesterday, because after a briefing fo
nbc news justice correspondent pete williams is on the case with the latest in the investigation. pete, what are we learning now? what are the ratest, first of all, from dzhokhar tsarnaev, and do they believe he and his brother were lone wolfs? >> you may recall that the charges against him were actually filed under seal on sunday, he had his initial appearance in the hospital on monday, and as far as we know, they haven't attempted to re-interview him since then. he's getting with his...
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i want to bring in pete williams. good morning once again. i want to start with dzhokhar tsarnaev. do we know specifically beyond serious condition how he's doing and how much talking he's doing? >> well, very little talking because of his throat wound. serious but stable condition is the way they describe it. we have been told that they are asking him some questions during brief periods and that he is giving them answers in writing. what he's saying we don't know. we can assume they are asking him about other threats. whether they had other plotters working with them or whether there were other explosives out there. that's the kind of questions they can ask during this initial period before they have to give him a miranda warning. >> which deals with public security threat. do investigators have a good handle, pete, on how big an arsenal they had? >> you know, we have heard conflicting things about this. we know they had a lot of finished bombs because they threw a lot of them out of the car as the police were chasing them thursday night, friday morning. they were throwing these l
i want to bring in pete williams. good morning once again. i want to start with dzhokhar tsarnaev. do we know specifically beyond serious condition how he's doing and how much talking he's doing? >> well, very little talking because of his throat wound. serious but stable condition is the way they describe it. we have been told that they are asking him some questions during brief periods and that he is giving them answers in writing. what he's saying we don't know. we can assume they are...
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. >> ifill: we should say our friend pete williams at nbc news who sits around the table with us some nights, has been reporting the second suspect, the younger brother, has been-- they think, maybe, perhaps-- cornered. they think maybe he's in a neighborhood in watertown, and we're still waiting for confirmation about whether he's dead or alive. but that raises the question to me about the breadth of this investigation. how much of it was federal? how much of it was local? how much of it was state? who took the lead? >> well, this was one of these classic cases of a joint terrorism task force. and this is an institution that has really developed in the aftermath of 9/11 where you bring together all kind of law enforcement agencies, all kind of jurisdictions-- local, county, federal, state. they work together as a task force, and this seems to have been-- worked very well in this case. >> ifill: okay, well, in that case we're going to move on. if we get anything new while we're on the air we'll share it with you. the president's week air force complicated one, especially after the sen
. >> ifill: we should say our friend pete williams at nbc news who sits around the table with us some nights, has been reporting the second suspect, the younger brother, has been-- they think, maybe, perhaps-- cornered. they think maybe he's in a neighborhood in watertown, and we're still waiting for confirmation about whether he's dead or alive. but that raises the question to me about the breadth of this investigation. how much of it was federal? how much of it was local? how much of it...
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rhett's get the latest from justice correspondent pete williams. pete, after yesterday's confusion, yesterday and this morning even, it seems everyone is sort of on the same page now. what's the latest you've got for us? >> well, i think the fbi is having this news conference is they want to show some pictures. these are pictures of two men that they're most eager to identify, find, and interview based on their review of all the mountain of pictures they've received. it's really quite extraordinary when you think about it that the fbi made this request for pictures. they were inundated with an amount of data equivalent to 25,000 hours of youtube video. what they got was higher resolution, so it's not that many hours but that gives you the idea of the sheer tonnage of vehicle and they managed to look at great deal of that and hone in on two people whose movements and behavior have raised some questions that they would like to answer. they want to try to find these people. so far they've not been able. they can clearly see their faces, but they don't
rhett's get the latest from justice correspondent pete williams. pete, after yesterday's confusion, yesterday and this morning even, it seems everyone is sort of on the same page now. what's the latest you've got for us? >> well, i think the fbi is having this news conference is they want to show some pictures. these are pictures of two men that they're most eager to identify, find, and interview based on their review of all the mountain of pictures they've received. it's really quite...
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. >> nbc news pete williams, as this develops, i'm sure we'll be coming back to you for more, thanks for joining us today. >>> also joining the panel now is bbc world news america africaor, katty kay. one of the first investigation questions we're seeing, perhaps not surprisingly because we live and work in a particularly heated partisan times is whether or not there were failures in terms of the fbi gathering intelligence, given the fact that this guy was kind of already on the radar and flagged by the russian government. >> we saw this after 9/11 and we're going to see it again. what did they know, what should they have known before he went to russia and after he came back. quiet has to be asked and it will be asked and eventually it will be answered. you also have the investigation itself. they have to still lock down this case against this young man. he's presumed innocent in this country. and you have to be careful even using the, the imminent threat exemption here. any evidence they get from him without the miranda could be thrown out in court and could undermine the case. >> i
. >> nbc news pete williams, as this develops, i'm sure we'll be coming back to you for more, thanks for joining us today. >>> also joining the panel now is bbc world news america africaor, katty kay. one of the first investigation questions we're seeing, perhaps not surprisingly because we live and work in a particularly heated partisan times is whether or not there were failures in terms of the fbi gathering intelligence, given the fact that this guy was kind of already on the...
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. >> all right, pete williams tonight, thank you. >>> as authorities search for answers, they are turning more of their attention to a trip the older brother made last year to the russian republics of chechnya and dagestan, both mainly muslim, both with militant separatist movements. tonight nbc's adrian mong is in dagestan in the neighborhood where some of the suspect's family lives. >> reporter: a long way from boston in this remote mountainous city in dagestan in the northern caucasus, relatives and friends of the suspected bombers are in shock over the news that two of their own may have been responsible for the marathon bombings. "i don't believe it but only allah knows," says an uncle of the brothers. tamerlan tsarnaev visited him when he traveled to dagestan last year. in the neighborhood where tamerlan and dzhokhar's father lives, the same sentiment. neighbors here on the street tell us they have a hard time believing what happened because they say the suspect's father is a good man. but the neighbors also say they haven't met the sons. dagestan is the russian federation's oldest,
. >> all right, pete williams tonight, thank you. >>> as authorities search for answers, they are turning more of their attention to a trip the older brother made last year to the russian republics of chechnya and dagestan, both mainly muslim, both with militant separatist movements. tonight nbc's adrian mong is in dagestan in the neighborhood where some of the suspect's family lives. >> reporter: a long way from boston in this remote mountainous city in dagestan in the...
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pete williams did a great job when he was covering this terror attack. brian williams did a great job. serena williams, i thought, was very good. robin williams, will i am, everyone in the entire nbc williams' family. of course, there were the occasional news slip-ups. your new york post. might have misidentified two high school students at terrorists and put them on the cover of their newspaper. but, you know, obviously a paper run by accuracy aficionado rupert murdoch would obviously be quick to correct such an egregious mistake. >> rupert murdoch the owner of the new york post has not apologized. in fact he said on twitter and i'll read it. only new york post pictures were those distributed by f.b.i. and instantly drawn when f.b.i. changed direction. >> jon: why wouldn't rupert murdoch apologize for endangering two totally innocent young men? is it perhaps that years ago he purchased and had installed all of hitler's internal organs? of course everyone had a little fun at cnn's expense for their monster gaffe when they claimed an arrest had been made
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joining us now, pete williams, who i should tell you, is in the same building i am in but is at another camera because he needs to be close to his desk phone. it truly is that kind of day in the news, pete. thank you very much for being here. >> you bet. >> what do we know about what authorities have been able to find from combing through the pictures and videos in the two days since the bombing? >> well, i think you've summarized it well. the holy grail for them was to see someone setting down a heavy backpack or duffel bag, a black nylon bag, that they believe this relatively heavy bomb was carried in. they think it weighed about 20 pounds, setting it down at the scene of one or the other of the bombings, and then getting away. they believe they have found a picture like that, first from the store surveillance camera that you noted, but they since have been able to triangulate that or get other views of it from other pictures and recordings that people who are in the area have sent them. people who have sent them pictures not knowing what exactly was to be found on them, so, they see
joining us now, pete williams, who i should tell you, is in the same building i am in but is at another camera because he needs to be close to his desk phone. it truly is that kind of day in the news, pete. thank you very much for being here. >> you bet. >> what do we know about what authorities have been able to find from combing through the pictures and videos in the two days since the bombing? >> well, i think you've summarized it well. the holy grail for them was to see...
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let's turn to pete williams. >> i think a couple things here. he says -- the two bombers are that's the relationship there. he says they came in early 2003 heard this morning that the family received asylum. and then you may recall that later this morning, the father in russia, and the uncle just said that his brother did go back to russia, so that explains that. you just said something about whether he didn't know if they'd traveled. and that reminds me that undoubtedly right now federal authorities are checking their travel records, these two young men, to see if they ever did go overseas to any kind of terror training camp, because we had heard that they had military experience. that was the initial assessment we had heard from several sources this morning. well, if they came here a decade ago and the one they're looking for still is only 19 years old, obviously he didn't have any military experience at the age of 9 before he came here. and the brother is 26, so i suppose it's possible that he might have had a
let's turn to pete williams. >> i think a couple things here. he says -- the two bombers are that's the relationship there. he says they came in early 2003 heard this morning that the family received asylum. and then you may recall that later this morning, the father in russia, and the uncle just said that his brother did go back to russia, so that explains that. you just said something about whether he didn't know if they'd traveled. and that reminds me that undoubtedly right now federal...
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pete williams is nbc's chief correspondent. pete, thank you for joining us. i used a movie reference there to try to figure out this radicalization thing. of course, we're learning now a bit about our surveillance. what have we learned in the last day about what we knew in our agencies that we didn't know before? >> well, this has raised a question, i think there's a couple of ways to look at this, chris. one is what the fbi and the cia and the government did. then the second question is, should they have done more? do they have enough legal authority to do more? but in terms of what they did, here's the way it's described to us. the russians come to the fbi in early 2011 and say we think that tamerlan tsarnaev, the older one, and his mother are becoming radicalized. they're coming to russia. we want to know more about them. so the fbi looks through its terrorism databases. doesn't find anything. looks to see if the phone numbers that he has are being called by other terrorists. looks for terrorism connections. finds nothing. goes to the house. interviews tam
pete williams is nbc's chief correspondent. pete, thank you for joining us. i used a movie reference there to try to figure out this radicalization thing. of course, we're learning now a bit about our surveillance. what have we learned in the last day about what we knew in our agencies that we didn't know before? >> well, this has raised a question, i think there's a couple of ways to look at this, chris. one is what the fbi and the cia and the government did. then the second question is,...
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a simulcast with brian williams and pete williams. you and i were getting unconfirmed reports of a boat with a body in it. >> there is a boat with what looks like a body under a blue tarp on the last house on franklin street in watertown. we hadn't had that confirmed. pete williams has not completely confirmed that yet. it appears that they have surrounded the area. people standing outside just now on our camera don't appear terribly concerned. we don't have an identification of this body so we don't know if this is the suspect or some other citizen. but -- so that is one question. right now, by the way, just looking at the white house picture behind you, there's a tornado warning. >> i can hear it. >> we are getting august weather. >> the white house, as you can see, is working behind you and in that white house within an hour or so we understand the president spoke to vladimir putin. >> let's go to erica hill on the scene. can you confirm what you're getting about a boat, blood, a body, and whatever? >> reporter: we have not had tha
a simulcast with brian williams and pete williams. you and i were getting unconfirmed reports of a boat with a body in it. >> there is a boat with what looks like a body under a blue tarp on the last house on franklin street in watertown. we hadn't had that confirmed. pete williams has not completely confirmed that yet. it appears that they have surrounded the area. people standing outside just now on our camera don't appear terribly concerned. we don't have an identification of this body...
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. >> nbc's justice correspondent pete williams joins me now with the latest. let's talk about specifically the charges, miranda rights, the public safety exemption, where are we right now on that issue? >> well, the normal rule is that when someone's irsed, they're advised of their rights. you have the right to remain silent. anything you say can be used against you. you have the right to a lawyer. if you can't afford one it will be provided, that sort of thing. if police don't give that warning then they cannot use any statements of the defendant in court. the exception to that is called the public safety exception. it's been extended by judges to terrorism cases. and the idea is that if you need information quickly to preserve public safety, you can ask those questions and still use the responses in court. but that public safety exception rule is limited. it only applies for several hours after fill in the blank. we assume after questioning starts rather than after arrest. probably no more than a day, day and a half. >> where do you come up with that? pete,
. >> nbc's justice correspondent pete williams joins me now with the latest. let's talk about specifically the charges, miranda rights, the public safety exemption, where are we right now on that issue? >> well, the normal rule is that when someone's irsed, they're advised of their rights. you have the right to remain silent. anything you say can be used against you. you have the right to a lawyer. if you can't afford one it will be provided, that sort of thing. if police don't give...
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according to pete williams and court documents. there has been a legal procedure in the hospital room, obviously, the defendant has agreed to an order of voluntary detention without prejudice. the defendant declined to answer bail questions in a probable cause hearing may 30th at 10:00 a.m. the court is satisfied the defendant is alert and able to respond to the charges. the defendant is remanded to the custody of fbi agents and was presented to u.s. marshals. he was advised of his rights and the charges against him. the government states the maximum penalties and is moved to detention. and there is a charge of using a weapon of mass destruction, the bomb, and that would include a possible death penalty phase if it were to come to that. although massachusetts does not have the death penalty. this is a federal case. david rode joins me now. he is the author of a pulitzer prize winner and the author of beyond warning reimagining american influence. we want to talk to you about your experience. you were held, you were kidnapped by the
according to pete williams and court documents. there has been a legal procedure in the hospital room, obviously, the defendant has agreed to an order of voluntary detention without prejudice. the defendant declined to answer bail questions in a probable cause hearing may 30th at 10:00 a.m. the court is satisfied the defendant is alert and able to respond to the charges. the defendant is remanded to the custody of fbi agents and was presented to u.s. marshals. he was advised of his rights and...
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it's been a lot of pete williams all morning. i have more pete williams. he reports officials think they know where this suspect in the white hat is holed up. they think they have located him. he also says that there may be a third person of interest in this now. there is definitely something going on boston right now. some outlets report that they smell smoke in the area. cnn just had a reporter on the scene and was reporting from where there is a lot of police activity and a police officer came up and told her to get out of the area and they are trying to reestablish a shot and police are sort of swarming around that cameraman. something is going on right now. i am not sure what it is. we will you know. >> is this the same office apartment complex? >> this is a different complex than the one they were looking at earlier. >> chris, you know, i was seeing something, but i haven't been able to watch. are there any videos on youtube of these guys? i had seen something of twitter. does that provide any clues of who these guys are? >> yes. there is actually ha
it's been a lot of pete williams all morning. i have more pete williams. he reports officials think they know where this suspect in the white hat is holed up. they think they have located him. he also says that there may be a third person of interest in this now. there is definitely something going on boston right now. some outlets report that they smell smoke in the area. cnn just had a reporter on the scene and was reporting from where there is a lot of police activity and a police officer...
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we are just getting this report from pete williams, michael. first of all, the names of the suspected and some updates on their ages. dzhokhar born in 1993 identified by the fbi as wearing the white hat. he does have confirming a massachusetts license. a resident of cambridge and we are told now he was born in kyrgyzstan. his brother's age is 26 and born in russia and became a permanent legal residents in 2007. also pete williams reporting we are told the brothers came with their family to the united states in either 2002 or 2003. very fresh information. no reason to draw any conclusions from just this. just more pieces of the puzzle that we will slowly pull together. the bigger issue now is the manhunt under wail and the safety of the people in the boston and watertown area. having that said, michael, given your experience and without going too far, let's look at what has happened. let's look at what they reportedly have done to attack in the way they did, the boston marathon. an international event. iconic american event. the oldest marathon
we are just getting this report from pete williams, michael. first of all, the names of the suspected and some updates on their ages. dzhokhar born in 1993 identified by the fbi as wearing the white hat. he does have confirming a massachusetts license. a resident of cambridge and we are told now he was born in kyrgyzstan. his brother's age is 26 and born in russia and became a permanent legal residents in 2007. also pete williams reporting we are told the brothers came with their family to the...
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i think there is going to be a civil court process as pete william has talked about. he's not been mirandaized yet but he's going to be. they'll use the public safety exception for as long as necessary. there will be the usual chatter about that. frankly, that's white noise. he will be prosecuted in a civilian court and the long process of building the case, judicial case through the forensics and investigative work and the chain of evidence is going to be incredibly solid because of what we've seen so far over the past four days of the investigation. >> can i press you on one point there? >> yes. >> the reason we can't take a deep breath, let me explain why this is the question at the moment. the things we have confirmed about the suspect are the suspect's name. we know quite a bit about the suspect thanks to a social media presence and the reporting that's gone on. we know the suspect is in custody. we do not know the suspect's health at the moment. what we do know are reports that the suspect has not been mirandized. the public safety exception is pursuant to a sup
i think there is going to be a civil court process as pete william has talked about. he's not been mirandaized yet but he's going to be. they'll use the public safety exception for as long as necessary. there will be the usual chatter about that. frankly, that's white noise. he will be prosecuted in a civilian court and the long process of building the case, judicial case through the forensics and investigative work and the chain of evidence is going to be incredibly solid because of what we've...
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pete williams has reported now that his brother, his own brother in fleeing in that mercedes suv ran over his own brother. eventually that suspect died at the hospital. but we can't overstate how remarkable it's been this morning, chuck, that there is a lockdown of a major american city. a shelter in place, as it is known. this is the kind of thing you hear about when there's chemical leaks or huge gas explosions. people stay inside for their own health and well being. we talked to police chief john timany who headed up the police departments in philadelphia and we talked to michael chertoff this morning and neither of them could remember a situation, not only where this has happened but where it is considered to shut down and ask all residents of a major american city to go inside. they talked about it during 9/11, but decided against it. you have people in a middle class town seeing s.w.a.t teams out their window. a no-fly zone over a small town in the western suburbs of boston. it is unprecedented. >> it's unbelievable there, willie. thank you. >>> want to bring in roger, a long-t
pete williams has reported now that his brother, his own brother in fleeing in that mercedes suv ran over his own brother. eventually that suspect died at the hospital. but we can't overstate how remarkable it's been this morning, chuck, that there is a lockdown of a major american city. a shelter in place, as it is known. this is the kind of thing you hear about when there's chemical leaks or huge gas explosions. people stay inside for their own health and well being. we talked to police chief...
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really the only person i believe reporting right now is pete williams, in pete we trust, and pete says there have been no sign the local law enforcement was going to move into the house th to arrest them. in some respects what the fbi did was exactly the right thing and gave them the intended outcome. tragically, another loss of life has changed. in the death, the murder, of the m.i.t. police officer. >> their uncle is speaking, and they're talking about it's nonideological, it's nonreligious. do we buy this? it comes from just personal anger and not something eye deological? >> we deal with the who, the how and the why. we know the answers to the first two. the third one is the person that really troubled us and fascinated us the most. what caused this radicalization, what cautioned the trigger in order to kill fellow citizens, i mean, not just people that they had no relationship with. we simply don't know right now. i think it's also important that we step back and remind everybody that they may have lived in the chechen community, this in no way paints a brush across the chechen co
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pete william is back with us now. what do we know today? >> well, first of all the charges themselves. two bombing charges that could carry the death penalty. that's interesting in this case because as you know, the commonwealth of massachusetts does not have the death penalty in the state system. so this federal case would be the only capital case filed. the government obviously is a long way from deciding whether to seek the death penalty but it is a death eligible case. in term of the narrative that we get out of the criminal complaint, here are the main points, it seem to me. they first of all say that a video taken from a restaurant at the scene of bombing site number two. so here's the street at which people are going by. here is the sidewalk. here's this restaurant. and on the doorway of the restaurant is a camera looking back down toward the street. what they say they can see on the camera is the person identified as dzhokhar tsarnaev come into the view with his backpack on. he work his way into the crowd. he is talking on a cell ph
pete william is back with us now. what do we know today? >> well, first of all the charges themselves. two bombing charges that could carry the death penalty. that's interesting in this case because as you know, the commonwealth of massachusetts does not have the death penalty in the state system. so this federal case would be the only capital case filed. the government obviously is a long way from deciding whether to seek the death penalty but it is a death eligible case. in term of the...
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in addition to that, this is per pete williams of nbc news. he now reports that the boston marathon bomber manhunt is now down to one person, the younger brother. initially, earlier today, there was some speculation that perhaps there was a third suspect. that is now being downplayed. and pete williams reports that the manhunt down to one person. in addition to that, the police officials are now telling pete williams that during the early morning watertown gun battle between police and the two brothers, about 200 rounds were exchanged. they have found seven ieds, improvised devices, that have been removed, in searches so far in watertown and also some from the house in cambridge. in addition to that, we have obtained these pictures from the owner of a shell station, which we're going to show you right now, and i want to explain the fact that, obviously, the younger brother is in the forefront, leaving the shell station there, but we've blacked out or blurred out the face of the second individual, because we don't know that the time stamp on th
in addition to that, this is per pete williams of nbc news. he now reports that the boston marathon bomber manhunt is now down to one person, the younger brother. initially, earlier today, there was some speculation that perhaps there was a third suspect. that is now being downplayed. and pete williams reports that the manhunt down to one person. in addition to that, the police officials are now telling pete williams that during the early morning watertown gun battle between police and the two...
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and pete williams bringing us up to speed. let's go back to that presser in watertown, massachusetts. >> we are convinced that we did absolutely everything that we could in this neighborhood to ensure that this individual is not where he left last night. last question. >> how did he get away? do you have a sense of where he is? >> he abandoned a car that he had used that was involved in the pursuit from cambridge here to watertown last night. in terms of how he got away, he did it on foot. he fled on foot. i don't know where he went specifically after that. >> so he abandoned the car in watertown -- >> that's all. >> motive remains under investigation. as i said to staffers, much of this remains under investigation. this is going to be the last briefing of the night unless there is significant development. we thank you for your help throughout the day. we thank you for your patience and we thank you for understanding that there's a lot of this we can't publicly disclose. >> all right, so the presser wrapping up. a few headline
and pete williams bringing us up to speed. let's go back to that presser in watertown, massachusetts. >> we are convinced that we did absolutely everything that we could in this neighborhood to ensure that this individual is not where he left last night. last question. >> how did he get away? do you have a sense of where he is? >> he abandoned a car that he had used that was involved in the pursuit from cambridge here to watertown last night. in terms of how he got away, he...
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our justice correspondent, pete williams, is standing by for us in d.c. pete, we'll get to the throat in just a moment. first, though, any late word on when those charges could come down? >> as a matter of fact, i just checked, craig, and there's still no decision on whether they'll be filed today or tomorrow. we originally expected them yesterday. there was some indication they might be filed then. we expect them today, but they may or may not be filed. they're still working on them. there's still some questions about material that they're trying to include in the court documents, so i think the answer is we just don't need. >> pete, typically in documents like the formal charging documents, what do we get? what more are we going to learn from those documents? >> well, we'll get the list of criminal charges on which he will be held. now, this is a two-step complaint -- a two-step process in the federal system. you first file this complaint, which is the reason that you're holding them, why they're under arrest. and later on, there'll be an indictment. so
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. >> and you look and you wonder if pete williams has done an extraordinary job reporting this, is correct, that they got spooked because this police officer stumbled upon them as they were, perhaps, trying to rob that 7-eleven and that's what triggered this. what if, what were they planning to do be the bombs and guns if they didn't encounter that police officer and shoot him and kill him at pointblank range in his vehicle and sparked the wild night last night? were they planning something else? were they planning their grand finale? who knows. you bring this point up. look how many plots new york city has faced since 9/11 in expensive car bomb plots and targeting the brooklyn bridge and how close we have come time and again. sometimes law enforcement has just done great work in terms of tracking these plots before they happen. other times it's sheer luck. but you look on the time that they got through in boston, look what's happening to that city. look what happened to those poor people. >> right. already. the economic cost, by the way. let me just say that -- it was reported earlier as
. >> and you look and you wonder if pete williams has done an extraordinary job reporting this, is correct, that they got spooked because this police officer stumbled upon them as they were, perhaps, trying to rob that 7-eleven and that's what triggered this. what if, what were they planning to do be the bombs and guns if they didn't encounter that police officer and shoot him and kill him at pointblank range in his vehicle and sparked the wild night last night? were they planning...
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joining us massachusetts governor deval patrick, nbc's justice correspondent pete williams, chairman of the house intelligence committee mike rogers of michigan, former homeland security secretary michael chertoff, former director of the national counterterrorism center michael l liter. then, how the marathon bombings changed things after such painful loss. >> anybody that knew her loved her. >> there were powerful signs of resilience. alongside a renewed sense of vulnerability as a manhunt virtually shut down a major american city. we hear from assistant senate majority leader dick durbin of illinois, and our special roundtable. >>> and good sunday morning. what a week it has been. developments are still moving very quickly in the boston terror story. we want to go for the very latest this morning to the governor of massachusetts, deval patrick, who is with us this morning from boston. it's good to see you and congratulations on the end of a very difficult week. >> well, i accept your congratulations on behalf of the extraordinary team of law enforcement folks who have done this the
joining us massachusetts governor deval patrick, nbc's justice correspondent pete williams, chairman of the house intelligence committee mike rogers of michigan, former homeland security secretary michael chertoff, former director of the national counterterrorism center michael l liter. then, how the marathon bombings changed things after such painful loss. >> anybody that knew her loved her. >> there were powerful signs of resilience. alongside a renewed sense of vulnerability as a...
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pete williams, the big question at this moment, was there a foreign connection to terrorism? what do we know? >> well, we don't know the answer to that question. the big gap here is what was the older brother doing in russia for six months last year? he leaves in january, arrives in july, and the russians have told the fbi that they were a little worried about him. but what was he doing during all that time in russia? his father says he was visiting him, that he went to see his family, went to renew his russian passport while he was awaiting american citizenship. he was here as a lawful permanent resident. did he -- the thing i think that's the biggest question for investigators now is, "a," why did he turn this way? but, "b," where did he get his expertise in explosives? where did he practice them? it seems really unlikely these two bombs successfully were detonated without some practice runs. where did he learn to do that? where did he practice? those are the big questions. >> we look at the pictures of the suspects and biographical information we have, dzhokhar, who is the
pete williams, the big question at this moment, was there a foreign connection to terrorism? what do we know? >> well, we don't know the answer to that question. the big gap here is what was the older brother doing in russia for six months last year? he leaves in january, arrives in july, and the russians have told the fbi that they were a little worried about him. but what was he doing during all that time in russia? his father says he was visiting him, that he went to see his family,...
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thanks also to pete williams and kristin welker as well. again, we are waiting on jay carney to take the podium there to answer some questions about that suspicious letter. he will undoubtedly also be talking about the latest on the investigation to the boston bombings and the suspicious package that's being investig e investigated? senator shelby's office. that wraps things up for me. "now with alex wagner" is up next. what do you have. >>> we're following the breaking news regards the suspicious letter and awaiting for press secretary jay carney to take the podium. the search forrens as continues meanwhile, in boston with new details about the construction of the two bombs. mike at leiter will join us to discuss. plus behind the explosion of home-grown extremist groups. we'll talk about a new report on so-called patriot groups. >>> in the aftermath of boston, what is the future for reform efforts on guns and immigration. luke russert and bob herbert join the panel. all that and more, coming up next. and do you know your... blood type? a o
thanks also to pete williams and kristin welker as well. again, we are waiting on jay carney to take the podium there to answer some questions about that suspicious letter. he will undoubtedly also be talking about the latest on the investigation to the boston bombings and the suspicious package that's being investig e investigated? senator shelby's office. that wraps things up for me. "now with alex wagner" is up next. what do you have. >>> we're following the breaking news...
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. >>> i want to bring in nbc's pete williams, our justice correspondent, live in d.c. with the very latest now. pete, let's talk about in nugget that was revealed this morning. the fbi now saying that they did in fact interview the older brother early in 2011 for some possible ties to terrorist activity. do we know why at this point the fbi did not pursue him further? >> reporter: yes, they have been quite candid about this. they say in early twlech2011, tt a request from a foreign government, and i think it's the worst-kept secret in town that it's the russians, who say they're concerned that he has terrorism connections, that he's become radicalized. so the fbi does what it says it's able to do under the law. they looked at whether he was in any of the federal databases of suspected terrorists or whether there was any indication that he was communicating either by phone or my looking at internet sites with any suspected terrorist organizations or individuals. they looked at his travel, travel history, all of that came up negative. so then they decided to interview hi
. >>> i want to bring in nbc's pete williams, our justice correspondent, live in d.c. with the very latest now. pete, let's talk about in nugget that was revealed this morning. the fbi now saying that they did in fact interview the older brother early in 2011 for some possible ties to terrorist activity. do we know why at this point the fbi did not pursue him further? >> reporter: yes, they have been quite candid about this. they say in early twlech2011, tt a request from a...
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pete williams will join us with the latest on this story. but first, while we may not know anything about who attacked the boston marathon yesterday or why, just over 24 hours after the explosion, there is a lot of new information tonight about the devices used in the attack. about to exekt from the investigation. there were two explosive devices which exploded yesterday. no more along the route or city of boston. the devices appear to have consists of explosive and shrapnel put into pressure cookers. they have recovered black nylon bags at the sights of both devices. they are believed to have been used to transport the devices to the scene. what happens next is that every single fragment of bomb material recovered from those sites will be sent to an fbi land in quantico, virginia, where they can be analyzed by the fbi and atf experts and even checked for dna. investigators have launched a major push to seek information from the public, including tips on suspicious behavior and photo and video taken around the race. >> the person who did thi
pete williams will join us with the latest on this story. but first, while we may not know anything about who attacked the boston marathon yesterday or why, just over 24 hours after the explosion, there is a lot of new information tonight about the devices used in the attack. about to exekt from the investigation. there were two explosive devices which exploded yesterday. no more along the route or city of boston. the devices appear to have consists of explosive and shrapnel put into pressure...
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the prior -- conversation with pete williams was especially interesting. here's a little more of what we know. pete reported on part of this earlier. the 7-eleven robbery takes place a few blocks on the north street and cambridge where the two brothers lived. robbed the 7-eleven. they then shoot the m.i.t. campus police officer, who is in his car. the reasoning we're told is he, they probably thought that the police officer recognized them from their photographs being published everywhere and up on the tv screens everywhere and hours earlier by the fbi in the afternoon. they carjack an individual who is driving a mercedes suv. authorities know who the individual is. the news media know who the individual is. we know his name. we're not going to report his name, obviously. he has been fully debriefed. and is really part of a really interesting equation to this whole awful, awful story. in that they hijacked the car. they take his credit card. and they make three different attempts with his credit card to withdraw money from atm machines. the first one faile
the prior -- conversation with pete williams was especially interesting. here's a little more of what we know. pete reported on part of this earlier. the 7-eleven robbery takes place a few blocks on the north street and cambridge where the two brothers lived. robbed the 7-eleven. they then shoot the m.i.t. campus police officer, who is in his car. the reasoning we're told is he, they probably thought that the police officer recognized them from their photographs being published everywhere and...
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. >> let's bring in nbc's justice correspondent, pete williams. so, pete, i can't help the system pinged. that is a little bit of a different story about what we knew about tamerlan tsarnaev's travels or not. was he on a watch list? wasn't he not? by her saying that, she's implying he was on a watch list. >> so, it would appear. i think it's fair to say that the, we don't know the answer to that because we're getting different answers from the intelligence community about whether he was ever put on a watch list. i guess there's two ways to look at this. the individual specifics about precisely how this was handled, but if you step back, there's a larger question here. that is when a foreign government gives us potentially derogatory information about someone, stop right there. should that create an entry for that person in the system? then keep going down the process. here, the fbi says they looked thoroughly at him, as much as they were allowed to do during this legal operation they're going in in this initial threat assessment. they find nothing
. >> let's bring in nbc's justice correspondent, pete williams. so, pete, i can't help the system pinged. that is a little bit of a different story about what we knew about tamerlan tsarnaev's travels or not. was he on a watch list? wasn't he not? by her saying that, she's implying he was on a watch list. >> so, it would appear. i think it's fair to say that the, we don't know the answer to that because we're getting different answers from the intelligence community about whether he...
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joining us is pete williams. this is a big development today. what is the latest? >> it is a big development. the pictures don't show crystal clear view of the faces, of course. there's pictures the fbi has not released. they do believe they have images showing the man in the white hat planting the second bomb, the one in the front of the restaurant. by the way, we have seen that picture from our affiliate in boston that shows the garbage bag next to the mailbox. they say that is -- now, they can say that is not the bomb. the bomb was actually planted on the other side of that barrier. it's right near there but just on the other side. in the release of these pictures, then, they've chosen which ones they think will be most helpful to people in being able to recognize them. granted, the faces are never crystal clear. they're hoping the totality of the clothes and where they were and what they were doing will cause some people to call in. they are getting the response that they asked for or getting a response, anyway. lots of names, but having names and knowing the r
joining us is pete williams. this is a big development today. what is the latest? >> it is a big development. the pictures don't show crystal clear view of the faces, of course. there's pictures the fbi has not released. they do believe they have images showing the man in the white hat planting the second bomb, the one in the front of the restaurant. by the way, we have seen that picture from our affiliate in boston that shows the garbage bag next to the mailbox. they say that is -- now,...
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pete williams is still with us. and there seems to be a key period in his life, six months when he went back to russia. his father says that he went to visit him, but i guess the key question is, was it at that point that he somehow was radicalized? >> well, that's a -- that's one question. and the second question is, where did these -- where did this expertise really you have to say with explosives come from. i mean, these two -- if you think about it, it's -- yes, the design of the devices was sort of basically out of the, you know, anarchist cookbook or right off the internet of how to make a bomb in a pressure cooker. it's unfortunately very sadly on the internet. but it's still difficult to make it work. and you add to that the fact that they managed to set off two bombs with some apparently sophistication in how they were detonated, whether they were by a timer or remote control. that certainly you assume is not something that you could do if you were just trying to build a bomb for the very first time. in mos
pete williams is still with us. and there seems to be a key period in his life, six months when he went back to russia. his father says that he went to visit him, but i guess the key question is, was it at that point that he somehow was radicalized? >> well, that's a -- that's one question. and the second question is, where did these -- where did this expertise really you have to say with explosives come from. i mean, these two -- if you think about it, it's -- yes, the design of the...
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i'll be joined by tom cost tello, pete williams and a number of experts. we'll play back the president's remarks a few hours ago. plus, we'll be joined by a father at the marathon honoring his son who was killed in iraq and why this photo of him has captured the hearts of so many. all coming up next. [ chainsaw buzzing ] humans. sometimes, life trips us up. sometimes, we trip ourselves up. and although the mistakes may seem to just keep coming at you, so do the solutions. like multi-policy discounts from liberty mutual insurance. save up to 10% just for combining your auto and home insurance. call liberty mutual insurance at... to speak with an insurance expert and ask about all the personalized savings available for when you get married, move into a new house, or add a car to your policy. personalized coverage and savings -- all the things humans need to make our world a little less imperfect. call... and ask about all the ways you could save. liberty mutual insurance -- responsibility. what's your policy? prego?! but i've been buying ragu for years. [ th
i'll be joined by tom cost tello, pete williams and a number of experts. we'll play back the president's remarks a few hours ago. plus, we'll be joined by a father at the marathon honoring his son who was killed in iraq and why this photo of him has captured the hearts of so many. all coming up next. [ chainsaw buzzing ] humans. sometimes, life trips us up. sometimes, we trip ourselves up. and although the mistakes may seem to just keep coming at you, so do the solutions. like multi-policy...
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let's go to pete williams. with a good afternoon to you, pete, let's talk first about the status of the charges in this case and what the likely charges will be. >> yes, i think the odds are pretty good that we'll see these charges in the next couple of hours. they're putting the final touches on them now. and we expect to learn a little more about what the fbi has assembled based on its investigation of the bombing. so perhaps there will be some new details that we'll get. in terms of the charges, i would think at the very least they'll charge him with the bombing, with a terrorism offense for that. and interestingly enough, under the federal statutes, which apply here, use of a weapon of mass destruction, which is the federal law version of what a bomb is, if death results, then that is a capital offense. the government could seek the death penalty. massachusetts is a state that does not have the death penalty. so the only death-eligible charge here would be the federal offense, even though four people were k
let's go to pete williams. with a good afternoon to you, pete, let's talk first about the status of the charges in this case and what the likely charges will be. >> yes, i think the odds are pretty good that we'll see these charges in the next couple of hours. they're putting the final touches on them now. and we expect to learn a little more about what the fbi has assembled based on its investigation of the bombing. so perhaps there will be some new details that we'll get. in terms of...
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let me go to pete williams which is live in washington. what's the latest? >> thanks. >> pete? >> sorry. good day. i think we have a better idea of why. we see this extraordinary security environment here in boston and the suburbs. understandable why in water where they believe that he may be holed up. that explains the situation around there. they think they know where he is, but not positive. there is a concern for the last couple of hours that he and his brother may have had accomplices and those accomplices may be at large and could be dangerous. this morning authorities found and disarmed another bomb in the boston area. i say another bomb. i mean a bomb today in the boston area. there is a concern about whether there could be other devices. you put all of those factorsing to and that's the explanation for the unprecedentedly strict security in boston and the suburbs right now. >> when you talk about the motivation and their state of mind and why they did what they did including the attempted robbery of that 7-11, you have got more information on the carjacking that occurr
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again, as pete williams and myself have been reporting all day, there is no suspect. there is no arrest. there is no specific name. now, we've been told that there have been several names out there that obviously they would want to run them down but we've been told that it's ruled out. the investigation is ongoing, moving forward. the piece of tape is one of many critical pieces that they are using to try to track suspects but right now no arrests. >> tell me how that's done. you're being looking at a piece of video, you enlarge it, try to improve its fidelity, its picture? what do you do? you look at the wanted posters? how do you identify -- do you look through mug shots? how do you find that person? >> the technology has improved tremendously in terms of facial recognition technology and they are using that matching images on video at the scene to any faces that might be in databases and running that to see if there's any sort of match. another way is, okay, here's an image that we've got. let's go back to others who we know that were at the scene and who were at b
again, as pete williams and myself have been reporting all day, there is no suspect. there is no arrest. there is no specific name. now, we've been told that there have been several names out there that obviously they would want to run them down but we've been told that it's ruled out. the investigation is ongoing, moving forward. the piece of tape is one of many critical pieces that they are using to try to track suspects but right now no arrests. >> tell me how that's done. you're being...
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>> well, i trust what pete williams says on these things and there is a period of time, 36 to 48 hours. it's somewhat fudgible. it will defend when aware enough and coherent enough to begin to answer questions. but remember, the exception is about imminent threat. does he know of any other terrorist plots? has he planted any other devices? it's about the immediate safety and security of american citizens. and once law enforcement has concluded that is not an issue anymore based on his questions, they'll then move on to what will be the traditional questioning and interrogation within the constructs of the civilian law system. >> that's to figure out what went down in all this, but how do investigators begin determining whether or not they were part of a larger terrorist organization? >> well, as we've heard earlier, the high value interrogation group is comprised of an interagency group of individuals with tremendous experience in interrogating and questioning individuals like tsarnaev who is in custody right now. they will begin that process. they'll certainly find other information f
>> well, i trust what pete williams says on these things and there is a period of time, 36 to 48 hours. it's somewhat fudgible. it will defend when aware enough and coherent enough to begin to answer questions. but remember, the exception is about imminent threat. does he know of any other terrorist plots? has he planted any other devices? it's about the immediate safety and security of american citizens. and once law enforcement has concluded that is not an issue anymore based on his...
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williams for all of your reporting this week, what you do better than anybody else. we appreciate it and appreciate you being here this morning. up next, as we get to know more about the suspects and some of the motivations behind the bombings this week, is there now a new sense of vulnerability to the country? a special discussion is coming up. joining me nbc's tom brokaw, peggy noonan, and bloomberg news jeffrey goldberg also of "the atlantic" magazine. an emotional week for boston and for the country as we were all on high alert and as we search for meaning in it all, we'll get the first draft of history through the eyes of the one and only doris kearns goodwin, herself a bostonian. revolutionizing an industry can be a tough act to follow, but at xerox we've embraced a new role. working behind the scenes to provide companies with services... like helping hr departments manage benefits and pensions for over 11 million employees. reducing document costs by up to 30%... and processing $421 billion dollars in accounts payables each year. helping thousands of companies
williams for all of your reporting this week, what you do better than anybody else. we appreciate it and appreciate you being here this morning. up next, as we get to know more about the suspects and some of the motivations behind the bombings this week, is there now a new sense of vulnerability to the country? a special discussion is coming up. joining me nbc's tom brokaw, peggy noonan, and bloomberg news jeffrey goldberg also of "the atlantic" magazine. an emotional week for boston...
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. >> nbc news justice correspondent pete williams is live with us right now. i know you've been reviewing these charges. what's the latest on what you've uncovered? >> it is a fairly interesting sequence of things that the government cites here as evidence. first of all they say that there was a surveillance tape that shows what apparently is the second suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev, the man in the hospital, placing the bomb at the second bombing. this is unrelated picture to what i'm talking about now. but this is the person we're talking about. but the surveillance tape was taken at the scene of the second bombing. you may recall that there was a restaurant there called the foreign restaurant. they say a surveillance camera there shows him walking up to the restaurant with his backpack on. that he takes a cell phone off, seems to be using it for a while, then seems to be talking on it. and then after he finishes the call, the first explosion goes off. he can be seen reto it. and i'm wondering if this isn't a little bit of confusion to see the pictures we're sho
. >> nbc news justice correspondent pete williams is live with us right now. i know you've been reviewing these charges. what's the latest on what you've uncovered? >> it is a fairly interesting sequence of things that the government cites here as evidence. first of all they say that there was a surveillance tape that shows what apparently is the second suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev, the man in the hospital, placing the bomb at the second bombing. this is unrelated picture to what i'm...
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so for more on what is next i'm joined by nbc justice correspondent pete williams. good morning to you after a very long day. and bravo for your work done yesterday. where do authorities go from here? >> well the justice department says it intends to put tsarnaev on trial in a regular civilian court with all the rules that would apply in any criminal trial. and that is renewing the debate about how to try terrorists on american soil. as soon as he is physically ready dzhokhar tsarnaev will be subjected to questioning by federal authorities. but in the beginning, he will not be given the usual miranda warning about the right to remain silent. instead, the government will invoke a rule that allows questioning a suspect without giving advice of rights. >> there is a public safety exemption in cases of national security, and central charges involving acts of terrorism, and so government has that opportunity right now. >> the government invoked that same rule in the case of the so-called underwear bomber. as in his case, it allows questioning to learn of any potential pl
so for more on what is next i'm joined by nbc justice correspondent pete williams. good morning to you after a very long day. and bravo for your work done yesterday. where do authorities go from here? >> well the justice department says it intends to put tsarnaev on trial in a regular civilian court with all the rules that would apply in any criminal trial. and that is renewing the debate about how to try terrorists on american soil. as soon as he is physically ready dzhokhar tsarnaev...